Saturday, August 15, 2020

The Portfolio Management Dream: How to Stop it from Becoming a Nightmare!

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VoiceAmerica  0:04  
One problem facing people at many levels of business is how to make time for a work life and a personal life. Do you find that one seems to keep getting in the way of the other? This is the work life balance with Rick Morris. Even if you're not involved in the business world, you'll have a lot to gain by tuning into today's show. Now, here's your host, Rick Morris.

Rick A. Morris  0:26  
And welcome to another edition of the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. So excited to have you guys along. And, you know, I've been very, very blessed with this radio show been blessed by you as an audience. And because of that, we're now booked out to the end of the year, which is really, really cool. It's the first time in the five years that I've done the show that we've been booked out that far in advance and that's a testament to you guys and a testament to the quality of people that are wanting to come on and talk to us about the work life balance. But having said all that it's been a little while since just I've been with you. So I thought I would take the opportunity today and just talk through some of the things that's happening here in our lives and then go through one of my, my newest content deliveries that we're talking about, which is called a portfolio management dream, and how to stop that from becoming a nightmare. So just, you know, on the personal front, there's there's a ton of activity that's been going on, you know, COVID has impacted us all. And being a serial entrepreneur and somebody who works from home. My consulting business, really just kind of went away, and so did the speaking business. And so I was faced, you know, in February in March of looking at my pipeline projections and just seeing them go down to nothing, almost. And so it's always time to pivot in I always say, these are the times that make the entrepreneur and these are the times that we really need to focus on what's important, but it's also not the time to take a break, I think The people that are working the hardest right now to reinvent and reinvigorate are the ones that are going to come out of COVID just fine. So to that end, we've started actually three different companies. Right now one super excited about we're calling milestone melodies. We're actually making custom songs. So we've got an entire group of Nashville Songwriters, musicians in really looking to create a unique, I hate to even say gift but a unique moment or so it could be, you know, wedding, anniversary, birthday, anything like that. And we're creating custom music fully produced. So there's a couple of other groups out there that do that, but they don't have the production level or certainly the talent that's available to us in Nashville. So super excited about that. There'll be probably a whole show, I'll bring the CO owners, which is Jennifer McGill, who's former Mickey Mouse Club, and Jeff bohannan is her Ben who does a lot of the production as well and we'll have them on and talk about their why and that business that's going to be really cool. We started a new organization as well called social RX which is spinning up which is more of a prescription for social media and how to do social media total Social Media Marketing Agency. And of course, you know, the pm tribe has been going on but the latest announcement is radio MMC, which you can go to radio MMC calm, but it is now a radio station that's internet based, that plays solely music of those artists and people that are connected to the 90s version of the Mickey Mouse Club. So that just launched this week. It actually launched August 12. So we're super excited about that. You can go to radio MMC comm and check that out. So let's get into today's topic. So in my consulting career and working with a lot of organizations, I've worked with almost 150 or so organizations now implementing what we call project portfolio management software. In the sole reason that most organizations buy this level of software in they can spend anywhere from, you know, 20,000 a year up to 200 $300,000 a year. So, I know several clients that have millions of dollars

invested in a platform like this, but they all buy it so that they can generally make better decisions when it comes to portfolio management. And so for those of my audience that may not fully understand what portfolio management really is, it is managing the entire project inventory for an organization in managing that to strategy as well as cost. And so the first question I always like to ask when we're doing any kind of portfolio management work is, are you picking projects based on what you can spend, or what your resources can realistically achieve? So let's explain that most organizations have some sort of capital budget planning process. Guess what they do? Is that the beat, you know, somewhere in September, October, they start a list and they essentially just say, hey, what are other projects that we need to complete next year? And this huge list? And they asked about how much is that going to cost? And then, of course, that list gets sent up somewhere, and, you know, goes through some magic formula, and essentially, they pick the project. And we've done a whole series on, you know, making sure that projects aligned to strategy and all those other things. So we won't get into that at this point. But my question is, is during that process? How do we ensure that when we pick all these projects, that we have a reasonable staff to be able to complete all those projects? And I would say between 90 and 95% of companies out there, have some sort of an idea. They'll say, you know, how many resources do you think you'll use? How many hours do you think this will be? Some kind of rough estimate? But it really doesn't timescale those estimates and show how the resources are being utilized whether or not they're gonna be overloaded or have enough time to actually complete the project work. So that's a huge question. And so as organizations start to become aware of this need, or really want to start to understand, and especially I think now in terms of COVID, you know, with reduced staffed and work at home and all those things, that it's forcing all these companies to challenge all their assumptions. And I wonder what that process is like if you don't have something that's automated, or something that can assist you in understanding that. And it's far too complex to keep this kind of information in your head or even via a spreadsheet. Because the moment you finish the spreadsheet, it's out of date. So essentially, an organization then has this dream, that they're going to buy some portfolio management software, and off they go. So what I want to do is talk through kind of three different Dreams. And then the nightmares that I see get created through those dreams. And then I'll finish this episode with some practical tips and tricks from a real world perspective. So that's what we're doing today. So the first dream is again, they buy a piece of software, it automatically somehow ranks projects through data, and then automatically communicate that information through the enterprise. So everybody knows the ranking of the projects and whether or not we have enough people to do them. And off we go. Now it's true. Most of the software on the market can do that. But here's how these things become nightmares very, very quickly. First and foremost, the first mistake most people do when they're looking at implementing a system like this any kind of automation system really, is they overcomplicate the software. When you start to see the potential of what software can automate, you start picking more and more and more processes to bring in and then essentially becomes this huge behemoth that takes forever to test for everything. Training is so disruptive to the enterprise. It's just too big. And so, by overcomplicate I can tell you I can't tell you how many times that when we we sold the software, we started working with the organization, we had something very simple like we want to do portfolio management. By the end, what you're arguing about is these 30 reports that nobody's going to read. And it's about colors and fonts and things, things like to me that I'm sure they matter to some people, but at the end of the day, those aren't decision making things. And those aren't things that really are driving those types of decisions. So becomes way over complicated. We're trying to do way too much and bite off more than we can chew. I think that second thing is that while this software does rank things, it has to have the data underneath to rank them. So for instance, if I want to know whether or not I have the resources available to do this project, and I have to have some sort of thought of what type of resources I need for how long and And how much of them that I need. So for instance, any 50% of a project manager for six months, and then that has to be compared with all the existing projects, and those have to have at least some sort of resource estimation.

Beyond that, a lot of people like to look at return on investment, net present value and, and total costs and things like that. But if we're not inputting that data consistently, in the system, then when it ranks the projects, it's ranking based on incomplete data. I think the third major thing that I see when people buy the software is that computers and software aren't going to replace human conversation. So for instance, one of the big ones is like, Okay, if I input my resources there, I want to be notified every time somebody updates a resource in the system. And I really see you know, do you do you really want to be notified because at some point, the These notifications is just going to clog your email box, and nobody's really going to want to look through them, and then it's going to lose its effectiveness and value anyway. So why would you want to be notified? And ultimately, the conversation comes down? Well, I don't want, you know, project manager or somebody going in there and messing up my resource forecast. So I get that. But even if they do, right, the system isn't going to prevent that or being notifying you isn't going to prevent that there's still got to be some sort of human conversation. There's still has to be talking that goes on and you know, jacking for the best resources for a project and no system, no matter how well automated or how well crafted is going to replace human conversation. And also the whole notification thing. Well, I see value in that being notified immediately. Whenever I'm talking to somebody in a meeting and they say something like that. I say, okay, hang on real quick. You just got notified. What are you going to do with it? Now that you've been notified, what's the next step? You're in a meeting You don't have the access to the data. So now it's just another email in your box that you got to get back to. So why couldn't we just create something like a weekly digest that says, you know, here's all the things you said you cared about, you know that, that if they were updated or changed in the system you wanted to know. But we give that to you in a consolidated format that says like, here's all the resource changes, here's all the project date changes, here's all the issue updates, you know, those types of things. But kind of a weekly digest instead of notifying you every time something like that happens. And most of my clients will take that option. But the point being is you lose the effectiveness of the software. If you overcomplicated, you don't have complete data. And you think that this system is going to replace the human conversations that are necessary to move business along. So that's how dream number one becomes nightmare. Number one. So we're going to go through a couple more of these. I've got two more dreams and nightmares to talk about and then we'll get into some practical tips but we're going to take a break right here. Are you listening to Rick Moore's on the work life balance?

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Rick A. Morris  14:25  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. We're talking about the portfolio management dream and how to stop that from becoming a nightmare. So this really comes from years and years of experience doing portfolio management working with organizations. The first one that we covered was, you know, buying software that we think is going to solve all the problems and while software does accelerate a lot of the decisions and makes a lot of the decisions easier. Certainly we have the ability to mess up how we implement the software and thereby make the nightmare happen. So our second dream that I want to talk about is where people will convene a PMO. And ultimately a portfolio management committee. The dream is that we're going to get the executives in the room, we're going to give them some criteria, they're going to look at all of our projects, and rank them with only one number one.

Not like one, a, one, B, one C, one D, but truly have a number one project. You know, a lot of times when when I'm starting the consulting with an organization, I'll ask them, who do you think is making the strategic decisions of the company? And of course, you know, they say, well, we do, right. We're the Executive Council, we do, and I'll say, Okay, do you have a prioritized list of projects that's, that's actually accessible, and everybody understands where they fit? And if the answer's no, then I said, well, you're really not making the strategic decisions. And they asked me how that can be. And I said, because what you're doing is essentially by not having a prioritized list of projects. You're deferring the decision. And that decision will continue to get deferred until it has to be made, which is generally at the lowest level. So for instance, it's it's not you making the strategic decision. It's that database administrator who just got asked to do three different things. Whatever they choose to do first is now the number one priority, at least to them. And of course, if everybody's operating that way, then you've got 500 priorities being worked on, and no consolidated effort towards that major project. And so how you combat that is then how do you decide what's the number one project and most people will do that through a council. So that's the dream is that we're going to convene this council. They're going to make decisions. We're going to have a prioritized list of projects and how we go. Now the first qualifier I want to give before I get into the nightmares, those one of the biggest things that I look at from a maturity perspective of not only Portfolio Management Council, but the project management office, the PMO, I was asked how many projects did Did you kill in flight or cancel outright as part of this committee? And if the answer is that they haven't, then they're not a very mature committee. Because the committee is just now becoming a rubber stamp or roadmap through in order to, you know, greenlight the project. But if they're really not stopping projects, or looking at projects that are performing poorly in them from that point, then they're not really making these portfolio management type decisions. That's really the goal. The goal shouldn't be which project should we approve? It really should be which projects aren't worth our time are we not going to do so how these then councils become a nightmare is first, how do you actually come up with a ranking for a project. And so what they'll do is they'll design a formula to rank projects, right the but then the argument then becomes about the formula. So instead of deciding you This project should be higher than this project we're arguing about, you know what, that ROI should be five times the revenue coming in or, you know, the NPV should be two times as important as the overall cost, you know, things of that sort. And the reason that that that formula becomes an argument is because based on the ranking of using the formula, the projects that they felt were most important, weren't showing up. So the answer must be let's tweak the formula so that we can get the expected result versus taking a really hard look at the what, what the formulas doing. So that's one way it can become an absolute nightmare. The second one and this one, this one I see more often than anything is that the council itself breaks down. So the decisions are really hard to make, but then that's why it's part of an Executive Council. The executives are there to make really hard decisions, and a very hard decision is we're going to do this Project and not do that project. And so I was contracted for for a government agency. And they had eight divisions that were using a centralized it. And everybody was upset that it wasn't doing the projects fast enough and wasn't producing enough so on and so forth, because everybody had a number one, and it was just bogged down. And my my challenge to them was, Why does it have to make the decision because at the end of the day, it for the most part, for the most part, I know I'm being generous here. So please don't be offended. But for the most part, it doesn't care what project we're doing. What we care about is that we have enough time to do that project with quality and be able to to put out the best results possible. But whether we do project a or project B really doesn't matter because we're going to end up doing them both. It's just give us the time to complete project day before we move on to project beat. So I worked with the the eight divisions and I can to counsel with them. And one of the first things I had them do was I asked them to come up with a list of criteria they feel they would need to have answered, in order for them to make a decision as to which project was going to be number one versus number two. And so we worked for weeks on that all kinds of data points, they were saying, and all this other stuff. When we were done with this exercise, the first thing I asked them to do was let's go ahead and rank our existing projects against this criteria. So that, you know, we could just see how it works, right kind of a test case. And they couldn't answer. They didn't have enough information to answer all the things that they say we're required in order to get a project approved to their Council. And I remember saying, doesn't that scare you? It doesn't scare you as the slightest bit that you're saying this is the minimum information you need in order to be able to rank a project. You can't produce that information for projects that are running right now. How does like how does Does that make you guys feel? And so what ended up happening is that it was too hard to get the data that they wanted. So we suggested to pare down the form and they disagree. They're like, no, we're just gonna disband the council. So it was a perfect example for me. And I've seen many organizations do that, that the decisions are that difficult. And in light of making the difficult decision or showing some leadership and taking that on, the response was simply we're going to push the decision back down to it and then we're going to yell at them if they're not making the decision we want them to make and that's essentially what I see in a ton of organizations.

The third one is nightmares is kind of the same under the same thing, but you can never make a decision due to insufficient data. So really nightmare. Scenario number two in this dream is is where they just the decisions too hard to make they disband but The third one is insufficient data. What this one really is, is what I call the decision delay tactic. So this is when they say, okay, we do want this set of information, go get it, you provide that information. Of course, a lot of people are doing this in spreadsheets, and it takes a ton of time to compile the information. And then somebody else on the council will say, Well, I really need to understand this piece of data in order for us to make these decisions. So obviously, you can't make the decision in that meeting. So you send everybody off, they create the new data point, they load it all up, they bring it back into the organization and somebody who go you know, that's really good, but now that I'm seeing that I want to know this piece of information. And while they say they do want to know it, it takes a lot of maturity in in somebody who's running the process to go, that's great. We'll rearrange the projects when we have that information, but we need to rank these projects based on the information we have today. That way, you have that opportunity to go ahead and start making some of the key decisions that need to be made. And you're not pushing it off. Just because of a data point. When you start to feel that kind of happening, that's when you want to challenge the organization or the council itself, to start to really come to terms with this decision has to be made. And it has to be made for the betterment of our people. And we talked about that for just a second. You know, decision making is what I feel the executives are paid the amount that they're paid for that that's that is their job is to make decisions. And but if you look at it from a human nature perspective, human nature says we don't really like or want to make tough decisions and a tough decision means it's not a compromise. Generally, somebody wins, somebody loses. And so when you're trying to maintain relationships, and you're trying to You know, make everybody happy and lead an organization successfully, those decisions are really hard to make. And I am not undermining that by any mean. But at the same time, no decision means the decision becomes deferred to a lower level. And so that now falls to your middle management, middle management doesn't make it that it falls down to your people and your people end up making strategic decisions, just for the mere fact that nobody else would. And so I just want you to think through that. And think about just something simple. Like if you're, you're asking for a team to collaborate on, you know, some copy that was being written an email was going to go out or a newsletter or something of that sort of something as simple as that. You ever send that email out and says, Hey, you know, provide me feedback. And you just don't get any information. Then of course, once it's published, everybody has their feedback ready for you? Well, some of these decisions That that are being deferred could cost millions upon millions upon millions of dollars. I remember

working with a bank, and they had something that they call this security scan. And it was supposed to just scan to see if any ports were open and they would close them before you know this, this thing would go into production. And there was there was a couple of projects that went out where a port was open, and it left them vulnerable to some sort of attack or hacking or something of that sort. And the CIO just came down with fury just beat everybody up around them. And so, next thing you know, as a project manager, when you go to do a security scan, they say, well, the security scan teams really overloaded. We said why they said well, we require three security scans for every project. I was like, what does that mean? And they said well, we got to scan it when the it is done building the server, we have to scan it after the vendors installed. software and we have to scan it after user acceptance testing, so that we can confirm if any ports were open. And if the ports were open, who, who opened them. And so then it became 10 days to schedule a security scan 10 days to perform it and 10 days to get the results. So you're looking at 90 business days or four and a half months, just so that we could say whether or not ports were open and who was to blame. And that was the kind of key thing see the executive needed to know who and was blowing everybody up, not the fact that the ports were open, but who did it. And so the question became, who made the decision to do three security scans? Well, nobody did. So the security scan team did, because they didn't want to get yelled at because they didn't know who opened the port. And so the question becomes, well, what was more important than the fact that we caught a port and we closed it before it went live? Or is it more important to know Who opened the port so we can yell at him and blame him. And when when I finally challenged the executive with that information, the answer was clear that no, we just want to make sure the ports are closed. But my that was a perfect example of how every single project in that bank, for as long as those process were in play, we're getting delayed by up to two and a half to three months. For no logical business reason, other than we wanted to know who to blame. That's a perfect example of when an executive decides to blow something up or yell at somebody or not make the the decision, how it gets hand checked down, and other people will then make the decision in absence. So that's our dream number two convenient counsel and make decisions and how those become nightmares. We're going to come back with nightmare number three right after this break and listening to Rick Morris and the work life balance.

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Rick A. Morris  30:17  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon talking about the portfolio management dream, how to stop them from becoming a nightmare. So we've covered two dreams already. Let's get into the third one and then we're going to get into tips and tricks that I have several clients that pay big money to hear so that's that's what's coming. So hang on with us and we'll get into some tips and tricks on some practices that are surprisingly successful. So dream number three is to institute a gating process. So, gating process is a series of gates where you want to have some sort of check where a project goes from initiation into planning, planning and execution, execute In closing, so on so forth, the goal is to validate that the team itself is ready that all the due diligence has been done. And we really understand what we're getting ourselves involved with. It's also, though should be a key point in which we look at the project and decide whether or not to continue the project. So it's not just a rubber stamp. So a lot of organizations, again, state that they want that they state that they want some sort of gating process, they want some control. They want to make sure that everybody's thought through everything that they're supposed to do. But the reality of the situation is it becomes a process for the sake of process. And before I get into that, let me explain that like, for instance, for instance, one of the biggest process I think, is misused in project management is that of lessons learned. Not saying that lessons learned is invaluable. It's just that people haven't really thought through the process. So then it just becomes something that we do for the sake to say that we did add a checkbox for the PMO that says yes, we completed the lessons learned what I mean is most of the time lessons learned is handled with the project team. It's tracked in some sort of spreadsheet and then it goes out to like a SharePoint site. And then the intent is that all the project managers are supposed to read all of the lessons learned so that we can plan for that and avoid making the same mistake twice now in theory, phenomenal. But we do have a system of how do we take those lessons learned and actionable so that people can really learn? haven't thought through how to do that, then we're just doing a bunch of wasted effort. So again, it's it's not that lessons learned is invaluable. It's just the process in which we do it. If you want a great system of how you can actually turn lessons learned into a real risk assessment I suggest my book project management that works I have an entire chapter devoted to how you take the lessons learned turn that into a questionnaire that can that is in central English for Your project managers to be able to answer and then it tells you what to plan into the project based on how they answered that questionnaire. And it's all based on lessons learned. But coming back then to gating, right, a lot of people end up having gates, just for a process I had of Fortune 50 client I worked with. And when we calculated the cost of their gating process, it was $18 million. It cost them to run their gating process per year $18 million.

And so

that became a great test case for the nightmares that we talked about. So nightmare number one is that gates become really complex and they use too much time. In this case, it would take 88 hours for a project manager to gather all of the data. And of course, then there's all these rules that come with it, right? So you got to fill out this massive PowerPoint, you get to go query all these different systems and you get all this information and You're supposed to have that done a week ahead of the meeting, so that the committee can review it. Well, of course, the committee is going to be reviewing like seven or eight projects, they did not look at all of those spreadsheets, they didn't read all that document beforehand, which is what they're supposed to do for the coming to the meeting. So when they get in the meeting, you end up just, you know, rattling off a bunch of information, and then you get a rubber stamp, and off you go. So we've got to make sure that when you're looking at a gating process, that it's not complex, it's super easy to kind of get through but you have the right amount of control within it. The second big nightmare that comes with the gating process comes around, again, decisions not being made. So you present it and then they defer decision in the gate because they want more information or they don't understand. And so therefore, the project essentially goes on hold until you can go through that next gate. Even more so. You know, when you when you have the council that's looking at the gating, a lot of times they'll say well You know, we're only going to meet every other Tuesday, something of that sort, which means if I'm ready to go through a gate, I've got to wait until a certain amount of time, so I can go present and get a rubber stamp and move forward. So that's another huge nightmare that we see when we're looking at the gating process. But the biggest one and my challenge to this fortune 50 client, my challenge to most of my clients is, once we understand what the total cost of the gating process is, then what is the value of doing that? Can we attribute the value? Did we cancel a project? Did we save a project that was gonna lose a ton of money? And, and, you know, revamp them? And when we start looking at processes like this, you know, some of these are very necessary. Some of these are regulatory, and that's fine. But the question becomes, is the value does the value outweigh the cost or is the cost tremendously outweighing the value? So in the case of that fortune 50 client, my question is, can we address Repeat like 35 to $40 million of gains from running this $18 million process. Because if not, then we need to kill the process and reinvent it. Right. And, and that's so I don't understand why it's so scary for organizations, but they're like, Oh, no, we got to do gating. Okay, but the gating hasn't produced any kind of results for your organization the way that you've chosen to do it. So why do it? Well, because, you know, we have to or because, you know, an audit finding or because, you know, our consultant said, so something of that sort, but making sure that we're getting twice the value out. If not, then everybody needs to be re diverted to revenue generating activities instead of these activities that are just clogging up the wheel and not producing results. So that that's how that becomes a nightmare. Number three, so let's get into some tips then for dreams instead of nightmares. So those are the things that can go wrong. Based on the assumptions that most organizations make,

so how do we how do we make these things, actual dreams? How do we make this stuff come true? So my first tip is that all of these things work gating works, project management software and how that work, you know, that works. Having a portfolio decision committee, it works, but they all have to start simple and then become built upon. So for instance, in the project management world, focus on each one of your roles kind of doing one thing, well, I call this the three rings of focus. So the three rings of focus is okay, I want portfolio, our project managers to write a good schedule. I want resource managers to give me utilization statistics, at the minimum Give me the percentage of resources used against the project over a length of time. And the team members just validate those assumptions. They can do that through time tracking or just validating the percentages that They're their resource manager put in. If each one of those roles just focuses on doing those things, well, then you have all of the pillars that you need to make great portfolio management decisions. We'll know how well the projects are trending, what percentage of resources are available to take on the next project. And we'll understand that the resources know where they're supposed to be and what they're supposed to be doing. And so if we do that, then it works. Once you have that down, then you can start to add onto some automation and some workflows and notifications and all those other things that a system can provide. But what I end up seeing happening more than anything, is when you overcomplicate it, then you stent, you start to doubt the tool and not the implementation of the tool or the configuration of the tool. And then it just becomes this large time tracking kind of database Whenever you try to use the data as a point of decision, people don't trust the data so they don't do it. That's, that's horrible. So, they are all of these things work, but they need to be kept simple and they need to be built upon. Under that same kind of tip though, I want you to have the concept of enter once use many. So I I see a lot of organizations who like one time tracking in their portfolio management tool resource management tool, but then they also have SAP or some other HR kind of tracking system in which they have to answer time so now it becomes duplicate entry of time. That's the biggest thing I always caution my my companies and clients to look at is to say, we need a time tracking system of record. And then whatever other system needs that information, we can feed it. So generally that means the portfolio management software is the best place to track time because it's generally at a lower level. When you're looking at like SAP and HR systems. They just kind of want time rolled up to the front project level, not necessarily at the task level. And then of course, you've got you know, just number of hours worked PTO time, that kind of stuff, you can roll that up and send that to other systems. In the same with like financials. So if you're running SAP financials, then let's not create a whole separate tracking spreadsheet in our portfolio management system. Let's find a way a way to feed the relevant information from the system of record into this, you know, into the system where you want to use the data but not have any kind of duplicate entry. All of the all of the systems now have open API's, they're super easy to start to integrate with. And there's ways that you can design that process so that you're entering once and using many. That's a huge tip. Think through the process. From your resource perspective, think through the process of the people that you're asking to do. You know, the so yes, you want the information to make better decisions. But if we make it cumbersome to enter it in or they're entering it in, twice, it's To lower the quality, then you're going to be into the nightmare of the data quality doesn't add up. So therefore we don't trust it. And now we're just doing again process for the sake of process. Very, very important that a well designed thought process of implementation of what's the system of record? What's the information do we need? What are we going to ask our people to do? And how are we going to utilize that data? That's how you prevent that from becoming a nightmare. So I've got four more tips that I'm going to share with you when we come back, but we're going to take our final break right here you're listening to Rick Morris and the work life balance.

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Rick A. Morris  44:00  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon, the final segment as we go through my tips now for how to keep your portfolio dream from becoming a nightmare. So we already talked about, you know, keeping things simple, the three rings of focus and enter once use many. Here's a very, very popular one we talked about earlier in the nightmare about how when you create a ranking algorithm to rank your projects, that a lot of the arguments become about the algorithm and not the projects themselves. So what I do is I find the five or six pieces of information that they're saying is important. So you know, ROI, NPV, total resource utilization, length of project, those types of things. And I rank all the projects by single statistic, each one so if there's five things I five separate lists and then I look for essentially the waterline or you know what we think we can do 30 projects, so which projects appear in the top 30 and all five of those categories. And generally there's about 10 to 12. In doing so, then we can say those 10 to 12 are in, regardless of who you know, if you think ROI is more important, or if you think total utilization is more important doesn't matter. That's it. And so now we're just we've made our decisions on the top 12 right out of the gate. And now we just start talking about the bottom 18. At that point, it moves things along a lot faster. And even if we come to a stalemate on the bottom 18 we still have ranked the top 12 and off we go. So that's a huge point in time saver for a lot of portfolio committees. probably my biggest tip that's utilized and in most of my most of my clients companies. The next one is what I call the 10% rule. This one, this one is is huge, especially when you start talking about lowering the amount of gates and things like that that you need. So essentially, the 10% rule works this way. So when you pitch a project and you have an initial budget, you automatically get 10% of that budget approved to go plan the project to really go plan out how much this thing is going to cost. And then if you're within 10%, plus or minus of your original estimate, you're automatically approved to go into execution. So the beauty of that is it's reducing the amount of gates that are just rubber stamp, and now gates just become about the outliers. But also it gives you the ability to move things along very, very quickly. So for an example, if it's a million dollar project, you get $100,000. To go plant it, you find out it's going to be a you know, 1,000,001 point 5 million, and then that means you you've got the green light to go into execution. So that's a very, very popular one as well. I've seen several organizations streamline their processes to where the only the gates that you're talking About are falling outside of that 10%. So therefore, there's real decisions starting to get made as to whether or not that project still valuable enough or whether it's still worth enough to go after.

And my next tip can go hand in hand with the 10% rule. And this is pmis term. It comes from the Pim Bock. And it's one that I remember kind of having a reaction when I first saw it, but once I saw one of these inaction, it's called a board. And that sounds horrible. But it essentially, is that the committee is convened to shoot down the project. And if you can, if you can then get the project through that committee, then it's a really good project to do. But otherwise, if it's a flimsy project, it's a pet project is one that's not really going to generate ROI, that kind of stuff. Those get cancelled and shut down in this committee. So the intent isn't to come to the committee to approve the intent is for the committee to come in and decline And make the sale of that project be so good, that it's irresistible. And we have to do this project. It's just it's a little bit of a flip of connotation, but it really is, is a powerful tool to say, you know, we understand we have limited resources, we understand we have limited budget, we're going to make sure that we're not going to waste any of those on projects that don't deserve, really to be considered by our staff. And my final tip, in this series is to talk about, again, value. If a process doesn't provide double the value, then it's time to redesign the process. And that really goes for any of our processes. It's amazing how much money that that I call low hanging fruit is available when I go into a consulting client. And all I have to do is looking at the processes that they're doing and question why do we have that process And I'll tell you that 90% of the time I'm talking 90% of the time, people will tell me Well, that's just the way it's always been done here. And that's that I hate that statement. Because that's not true. It's not the way it's always been done there. It was just the way that you were trained and you've never questioned or look to improve the process sense. And so when you're when you're looking at a process, I'll give you a perfect example something a question I asked a client that they'd never been asked before is that they, they deal with a lot of regulatory a lot of regulatory projects and regulatory generally means you have to do it, or there at least has some consequences for not doing it could be loss of reputation could be a financial fine in most times. It's a financial fine. But there was a new regulation came out everybody scrambling the project was gonna cost about $200,000 do and my question was, what's the fine? I go? What do you mean? I said, Well, we're doing this to avoid a fine, what's the fine, the fine was $10,000 For the first year, and I was like, Look, this is obviously a project we need to tackle, but it's going to be a nightmare to try to tackle it now. So why are we going to spend $200,000 to avoid 10? Where we'll just take the $10,000 lump. And now we don't have to do it as an emergency project, and it's gonna cost you no way less to do. And that's what we did. But nobody had ever really asked that question to the client before like, Alright, so that caused me and my portfolios when when I have a checkbox that says this is critical, or it's regulatory, like I want to see, like, Where's the regulation, I show me the document, show me the phrase, and show me the fine so that we understand that this is good business for us to do. So, if a process doesn't give you double that value, then it's time to absolutely redesign the process. So that's how we make portfolio management dreams. actually become dreams and avoid nightmares. If If you have any questions about any of those, you can reach me at r Morris at r squared consulting COMM The software that I recommend that you use right now, if you're looking at any kind of portfolio management type software is a company called PD where it is the first one that was built with resource planning in mind and makes the resource planning essentially the power of a project portfolio management tool with the ease of a spreadsheet, it's really really cool software, really inexpensive, and does a phenomenal job.

Coming up next week, we're going to start a series of entrepreneurs and real entrepreneurs. And we're going to have john tablets on who is the founder of books, which is Bo u q s and it is one of the fastest growing flower retailers out there, the largest company and one of the biggest successes ever to come out of shark tank and just a phenomenal entrepreneurial stories. So we're going to be visiting with john. Next week, and we've got tons of those coming up. We've got Wes, who actually was our reschedule. We missed an appointment before but he's a marketing guru got Travis Bell coming up. And just on and on Adam Mendler. Steve gave it tours. And then even if you missed last week, a fascinating conversation that we had with Doug vermeeren who's is considered the the modern day, Napoleon Hill. He's He's interviewed over 300 of the most successful people in the world, and is gleaned insights. And he talked to us about his movie, how thoughts become things so that was last week's episode. If you missed it, you definitely want to go back and catch that one. Otherwise, gang, we thank you so much for always being a part of the show, always the feedback that I get on social media and via email. I certainly appreciate it. So keep that coming. And until next Friday, we hope that you live here. Your own work life balance will talk to you that

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VoiceAmerica  0:04  
One problem facing people at many levels of business is how to make time for a work life and a personal life. Do you find that one seems to keep getting in the way of the other? This is the work life balance with Rick Morris. Even if you're not involved in the business world, you'll have a lot to gain by tuning into today's show. Now, here's your host, Rick Morris.

Rick A. Morris  0:26  
And Welcome to another Friday edition of the work life balance. So excited to have everyone along and I'm gonna just jump right in. There's times when we have guests. I think we're booked through December now, already and of course, you know, I'm always excited for any guests that comes on. But every once in a while, you kind of circle a guest and that's what I've done for this one. I was really really looking forward to this interview. And so I'm not going to waste a whole lot of time and we're just going to jump into it. This gentleman has personally interviewed business leaders and companies like Nike Reebok Fruit of the Loom, FedEx, American Airlines, Ugg boots. KFC, McDonald's, Disney, United Airlines, Ted Baker and others, so that they can share their success secrets with you ABC television and Fox Business referred to him as the modern day Napoleon Hill. And of course, all of you that are my longtime listeners, how many times have we discussed Napoleon Hill and thinking grow rich. He's also the producer and director of four out of the top 10 personal development movies ever made. And now, the new hit film, which is how thoughts become things. He's authored three books in the guerrilla marketing series, and he's a regular featured expert on Fox, CNN, ABC, NBC, CTV, CBC and others his training program share strategies of how to connect with the highest level achievers and expand your network to grow your business. His award winning entrepreneur training programs have been rated among the best in the world. Let's bring him on Doug vermeeren. Doug, how are you sir?

Doug Vermeeren  1:52  
I am doing excellent. Thank you for having me.

Rick A. Morris  1:56  
We're so excited to have you here and thank you for the I got it. Link to be able to see the movie. And so of course got a chance to watch the movie. It's fantastic.

Doug Vermeeren  2:06  
Oh, we had such a fun time making it too.

Rick A. Morris  2:08  
And you've got a powerhouse of people that that's on it. Go ahead and write. I'll just bring it with you. Yeah,

Doug Vermeeren  2:13  
sure. So we got Bob Proctor Denis waitley, Joe Vitale, john demartini, john Ostroff, Murray diamond, Bob Doyle. Like you name it. We've got some of the heavy hitters in there. And again, it was so much fun to make it because I could ask them any question I wanted. Right?

Rick A. Morris  2:28  
Sure. And beyond that, they're kind of your crew, right? I mean, they are.

Doug Vermeeren  2:32  
Yeah, we're a posse. We we do a lot of stuff together, it seems.

Rick A. Morris  2:37  
Well, Jim Rohn, who actually is credited the five people around you, right? I've heard Jim Rohn credited. I've heard a couple other people credit, Max. Oh, yeah.

Doug Vermeeren  2:45  
Yeah. And but you know what, here if we're talking about how thoughts become things, this is something I really hope people got from the film is that everybody talks about our programming from the past, right? You were a kid, your parents didn't treat you great. You know, you were a dysfunctional family. And now we use that as a And excuse to say why we're all so messed up. But the truth is, is most people don't realize that our programming is continually ongoing. And that idea of we become like the five people we spend, I love that word spend. It's it's current tense, not past tense, who we spend the most time with. And so yeah, I mean, that's the quickest way to shift your programming right now, if you feel like you got dealt a bad hand, just start leveling up that influence around you. And you'll see some things change in a hurry.

Rick A. Morris  3:27  
And I couldn't agree with you more. It's something that you know, I came to near bankruptcy in 2014. Really, really close right and just had to reevaluate everything. As when I joined the john Maxwell team and started to level up the game and some of the people we were talking kind of in pre show to some of the people we know in common. But once I started to advance around them, I really started to think and I'll tell you, the exciting thing for me, was really understanding the subconscious and how much that plays into not only Creating everything that that you hope to gain. But how to build that as a muscle you talk about that a little bit. Well,

Doug Vermeeren  4:07  
let me also share another thought that I think is really kind of cool that I teach in some of my training, you've heard, of course, the idea that your network becomes your net worth. We've all heard that idea. But what we don't really do is dissect that word net worth a little bit. And it's really two words net and worth. And everybody focuses on the money, that's important. Okay? We won't deny that but worth worthiness worthwhile values, right? If you think about who you hang out with also becomes your net values, right? And we rise to the standards of those that we surround ourselves with and the things that they value, right. So I think it's really important to recognize that when we are choosing to find out who is our immediate right, who's our favorite five, who's our team Supreme, the people that we're going to really learn from, we've got to recognize that it's not just about hey, I'm gonna hang out with money people I want to hang out with people who really value the same things as me and can To help me open the doors in the direction of the things that I value, one of the things that I also think was kind of cool just about this idea of value. When we were making movie, the treasure map, I was chatting with my buddy, john demartini. And he said something really kind of cool. And it stuck with me. He said, Everyone is wealthy, it just appears in the form that we value most. And so most of the time, like if you think about your day, like you give your priority to the things that you really find important that you value. And so if we start hanging around with people that have a powerful set of values that harmonize and fit with ours, we can start seeing kind of how all the activities as let's call it the ultimate mastermind, right, the way they think the way we think the way together we think if we really build strong value, then we start doing things at a different level.

Rick A. Morris  5:47  
Now I'm said it in a really positive manner, though, because you said rise to their standards, but there's also that potential then to lower those standards. If you're not surrounding yourself with the right vibe.

Doug Vermeeren  5:56  
Well, yeah, it's kind of like what Bill Bartman told me. I don't know if you know, Bill, he was at one time that Fifth wealthiest guy in the United States. He says if I'm the smartest guy in the room, I'm in the wrong room. Yeah. Right. And so I know that's kind of funny. But the truth is, we don't look at it enough actually one of one of my favorite experiences in my entire life that shifted everything for me, right really shifted everything. As you can imagine interviewing 400 of the world's top achievers, you start seeing some success markers that are just clear, right? I mean, it's funny because I had a lawyer once Tell me if I had three witnesses for a court case, I'd be in pretty good shape. If I hadn't done I'd be awesome if I had 400 indisputable facts 100%. And so you know, maybe I'm a bit blessed, because the stuff that I've been able to learn, I haven't really seen a lot of personal development, people that have been able to have 400 resources like that, right. So as part of that, I'm sorry, this will be the first negative comment hopefully the last but I noticed a lot of coaches speakers and trainers that are out there aren't really always teaching what's really required for true success, because they've never really built like seven or eight figures in their life, right? So they're kind of reading someone else's book. They saw The secret to more their law of attraction coach or the go see Tony Robbins into more their life coach or business coach, whatever, right? But when I saw the top 400 achievers, I had some real experiences that shifted everything. So here's one that's really kind of cool for me. So I am had an idea for a business. I was 19. At the time, I was in the thick of these interviews with the top achievers. And so I decided I'm going to talk to one of these top achievers about my business. So I sat down with a guy named Ryan, who is worth about $300 million at the time. And as I was sitting with him, I said to him, Hey, I got this business idea. What should I do to find customers? What should I do to do the marketing? What should I do to, you know, find my demographics, what should I do to get the distribution here? What should I do to raise funds? And he just, you know, politely sat there and observe me for a minute. And then he said something that kind of hurt my feelings, but was really profound. He says, I can see you're gonna start a very small company. And I said, Well, that's not my goal. I don't want to start a small company. I want to start a big company. And he just kind of again, politely shook his head and said, No, you Start a small company. So it's okay. Tell me why, why? Because what's because you're asking selfish questions. And I said, What do you mean by that? Then he explained, he said, so many of these gurus say this idea if it's meant to be, it's up to me. So instead of asking, How can I, how should I, he said, shift your questions to ask this? Who, who, so in other words, who can help me find my customers who can do my marketing who can solve this problem? Who can do that? And the truth of the matter is, is we shouldn't to create success step out of our comfort zone to try and be a jack of all trades and Master of None, and try and do everything. his advice was that we step into our brilliance zone, the thing we are incredibly good at, then we go hire other people who can solve the problems with things that they're incredibly good at, and then we can't be stopped. And it kind of goes with what Steve Jobs once said. He said, We don't hire smart people and tell them what to do. We hire smart people so they can tell us what to do. I'm going to add to that we also hire smart people so they can actually go do it and make us the money right? That's the real method that we need to do is we need to start surrounding ourselves with really that dream team that team Supreme.

Rick A. Morris  9:07  
And I think I think when you get into that point, and I'll be honest with you recently, for me is when I really started to look at who could do it, right. So I feel like I'm the great connector, but I did everything on my own. And I always felt like, not if it was up to me, you know, it's meant to be but more so, to my standards versus right. And that was a big thing.

Doug Vermeeren  9:26  
That's an interesting thing. You say that too, because, um, one thing that you kind of didn't mention in the opening, but it's not really super important as Money Magazine just recently rated me as the number one passive income coach in the world. And the reason why is I'm doing about 14 million per year in passive income, no job attached. And the thing that I've had to learn the thing that every entrepreneur has to learn, the thing that you just mentioned, is to first of all recognize I'm not going to do it perfect either. So it's okay to also hire someone that's not going to do it perfect. And I'd rather and here's the definition of wealth. If you guys really want the true definition of rich, it must include Not just money, it must include time. So yes, I want the 14 million. But here's the deal is I'm done most days, I know it's gonna sound really kind of a bit smug. But my next book is called the six minute work day, 360 seconds. And I'm generally done everything I need to do. Why? Because I've learned a system and a system means either to delegate or automate, those are the only two choices you have. So when you understand the power of delegation and automation, it creates wealth, but not just because it creates money, but more so because it creates time. So when somebody else is off doing, let's just call it a mediocre job of something that I would also do a mediocre job with. I can actually be somewhere else either enjoying my family, which is a form of wealth to me, or I can be perfecting the systems while someone else is doing it. So I'm genuinely not working as Michael Gerber says, we're working on our business, not in our business. And most people they have no clue what that even means.

Rick A. Morris  10:58  
And it's it's a newer thing for me, as I've grown in, you know, I built a company up to about 40 people we we did well, But to your point, everything ran through me. I didn't delegate it not made to do anything. So, well, if

Doug Vermeeren  11:14  
you're not getting the wheel, if you're a cog in the wheel, you're the cog in the wheel. That's it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And

Rick A. Morris  11:18  
hit an absolute leadership lid, and it was time to start to look beyond that. And Funny enough, when you say step into your brilliance for me, I came up in project management and project management person, but my brilliance was in sales and selling the dream and influencing people into what the dream was not necessarily writing the project schedule and organizing the team to get there. Does that make sense? Well,

Doug Vermeeren  11:40  
you know what would be really cool? And this is just a thought for you to think about if your skill set of sales and by the way, I love sales too, because sales is the idea to get other the thought of getting other people to buy into your ideas. So my challenge to you would be you know, go and sell some of the top leaders and CEOs to be part of your journey. Sell Have them on why they need to step in. And people with big customer bases like here's the deal, there's a difference between networking at a $10 breakfast versus a million dollar area, right? You'll never do a million dollar deal in a $10 breakfast. And so at these higher levels, you know, it's different than the lower levels at the lower levels. People are looking for customers, that's what they come, they come to the networking event to sell people at the high level, we're looking for people that already have our customers, big groups. So this is my chance to go out and sell yourself and your idea to these people who already can move it to the next level.

Rick A. Morris  12:31  
Alright, so we're just going to go ahead and shut the show down right here and I'll take up

a report

back we'll see. I'm an action person. So we are going to take a break right here. We're going to be right back with Doug. You're listening to the work life balance with Rick Warren's.

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Rick A. Morris  15:08  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. We're visiting with Doug vermeeren. Who is the producer of how thoughts become things. And when you were talking through that, Doug, the first time you you brought up the secret the movie The secret? How is your film different from the secret?

Doug Vermeeren  15:26  
Well, you know what, I guess the thing that I think is important to recognize the film, The Secret really opened the doors for so much more. But it was also the beginning of a conversation right? There was so much more that we could get into. But how is it really different? Let's talk about that for a second. Then in the film Mike Dooley says thoughts become things you remember, he was all like dramatic with it. But he never he never really and I love that thoughts become things right like, but the truth is, is he never really talked about the how, right? And so that's kind of what got me thinking and the more that I looked at this question of how thoughts become Come things. There's such a big journey not just with the law of attraction, but even modern neuroscience and psychology and so much that we've kind of grown to understand about how our thoughts really are generated. And, and there's also a lot of misunderstandings, right? Like, if we look at this idea of thoughts become things. There's actually two words, even in our title that everyone neglects. Everyone's focused on our thoughts, how do I overcome negative thinking, How do I beat fear? How do I, etc, etc. And then they also focus on the things how do I get the Ferrari? How do I get the money? How do I get that, but they don't focus on actually, I think the two most important words, which is how having a bit of a process that we can follow and recognizing and creating awareness, but the become, which is really the change that we needed to make. While I was sitting with Bob Proctor when we were filming this and again, you know, this famous line that he did share in the secret. Everything vibrates at a frequency, right, like we talked about that again, and we talked about why is it that most people can't bring some of these things into their lives and whether you're thinking from sort of the New Age point of view or even just modern psychology, it's because they're not prepared to become They're not prepared to make the changes. They're not prepared to put in the work, right. I love what Jim Rohn said, You and I were talking about Jim a little bit before Jim said that if somebody wins the lottery and they want to keep it, they need to learn how to become a millionaire very quick, right. And I think that this is what we try to address in the film. And for me, I think there's a lot of really cool things that we share in the film that no one's really talked about, like, here's something that I think is really important. Everybody, I think, from watching the secret and maybe you know, a lot of the other seminars and tools that are out there. They always hear this idea that you got to think positive, you got to think these pristine, empowering thoughts proactive and that's the way you're going to get to where you're at. Well, you know, what truth is, is I've never been able to do that. And I know a lot of people who also struggle, and they think they're a failure, I'll never manifest everything and I'll just, you know, keep trying, but I'm, I'm failing. Well, the truth of the matter is his thoughts actually don't arrive positive or negative. They arrive both they have duality to them. And if you don't believe me, I know that we're talking about work home life here. Think about when you started maybe a business, right? The first thought is, is wow, I could do this. These are the positive thoughts, right? I could be profitable, I could be effective. I've got a background in this I can be successful. And right behind it is the doubt. I don't know, maybe I can maybe it's not for me, right. And so when the font arrives, it has a positive and a negative to it. But what happens is, is that positive and negative thought if you think of it kind of like landing in a nest, if you will, that nest is our support mechanisms, our programming our feelings about ourselves, it's like it's the jungle, it's the mess. It's the marketplace. It's all our interpretations and our perceptions of things. And if you've got a negative sort of outlook on things already and your support group is negative and your family's negative and your program is negative, all of a sudden that dual thought the negative side will receive more power. But if you've got you know, an awareness and a positive nature and even if you've got some negativity in there, but you've got enough of a belief in yourself To make a strong emotional commitment to this and your why is perfect if you find your white power, you find your willpower, right? And so if this if this positive and negative thought lands in that environment, all of a sudden the positive has more power. And I think it's really interesting just going again to the 400 top achievers that I interviewed. Um, you know, the thing that surprises me is how many of them actually came from a difficult background? Sure. And they made that awareness, that choice, right. And I think that that's one of the greatest powers that we have. But most of us neglect is that whenever a thought arrives with it's positive and negative, we have a choice. Most people, unfortunately are on autopilot, and they just sort of dismiss it because it seems like it just might be hard.

Rick A. Morris  19:41  
Yeah, we talked about Paul Martinelli, but I mean, he was a janitor, high school dropout stuttering problem was told he was stupid his whole life and now he's, you know, very, very successful gentlemen leading a huge tracker and

Doug Vermeeren  19:55  
I don't think I come from a great background either. In fact, you know, they call me the modern day Napoleon Hill, but what little To that the truth of the matter is, is we didn't have any personal development. My home, my father worked in construction. My mom babysat kids in the home. They understood the poverty pattern very well. In other words, paycheck to paycheck, working for a living, heavily entrenched in the rat race trading time for money. That's what they taught us work hard. And I believe that right, growing up, I believe working hard was the answer. And so when I was really getting quite discouraged, because it wasn't really producing any results for me, it was at about that time that a friend gave me thinking grow rich. And quite frankly, I'm, you know, for being vulnerable right now. I'm so glad he did. Because I was so depressed at the time that thoughts of suicide and failure and things of this nature were not uncommon for me. So it was, you know, it was a real big shift. But I think that this is kind of an interesting lesson that I think everybody in the audience needs to really understand who you were yesterday, who you even are today, it really doesn't matter. If you make a new choice. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy. By the way, I never preface that but I did say that We can get started wherever we are. In fact, one of the things that's kind of cool that I talked about in the movie that was really interesting. When I went out and I interviewed the top achievers, I also put in some people that were not who you think, right. So in other words, I didn't just interview the A listers, you know, the Richard Branson's and the mark Cuban's and the people everybody knows, I picked some people that I thought were also making a significant difference, specifically in the areas of change and transformation. And so I selected actually to interview a person that trains suicide hotline workers. Now, I thought that was interesting. If you think about it, we've got all these personal development people in the world who talk about I can make a change in a weekend and I can and they maybe can, and I'm not disputing that. But can you imagine a suicide hotline worker you have somebody calling in on their, you know, most despair moment of all these people, some of them have already been taken pills or they've got a gun sit on the bed by them or who knows what their plan is, right? And so if you're going to make a change for somebody, you better hustle, right? Like you don't have a lot of time and so I said to this lady, I said, um, so, you know, tell me what's like, what are sort of some of the rules of the game with this? And she says one of the only things we really can't say is don't kill yourself. And I said, well that like to me, that's a number one. I'm gonna say that first. Let's talk. Yeah, right. Don't kill yourself. And she said, No, the reason why is because most people when they are in that state of despair, feel like they already have all their choices taken away. And if you tell them what to do, you're just another part of that equation of telling them, they have no choice. Don't do it, don't do it. And she said, instead, we do it this way, which I thought was very clever. She said, we tell them they could kill themselves. Yes, that's a choice. But then we help them see the consequences. This is what it would look like if you chose to do that. But you could also call and get help. And that's what this looks like. And you could stick around and maybe get some counseling, and that's what this looks like. And we start helping them see their options. Then she said something really profound. She said that the more choices a person feels like they have the more power they have. Yeah. I also kind of equated that to this, you hear people say that happiness is a choice. I don't think that's entirely true. I think happiness is a choice, but being pleased with the consequences that follow, right? Because I think a lot of people make their choices based on immediate gratification. They make them based on emotion, sometimes even temporary emotions. In fact, one of the top achievers that I interviewed gave me this advice about money, but I think it applies to everything he says, never make big decisions when you're when you're in a state of high emotion. Right? Meaning if you're trying to make a decision out of anger or frustration, I mean, Heaven knows. I mean, everyone is like this, right? We've all said things to people that we love when we're in a state of high emotion that we definitely wish we could take back or we wish or would have said, and so I think that applies to everything. We've got to be really careful about, you know, recognizing consequences part of everything we do.

Rick A. Morris  23:54  
So when people start to go down that negative path, how do they How do they So, for instance, I've got a friend that every time something pops up, the first thing she thinks through is the four things that can go wrong. Yeah. In which, which I think, you know, we need we need people like that, to help us see race and overcome risk, but how do you start to, to free them and to make a change that's a little bit more permanent?

Doug Vermeeren  24:22  
Well, yeah, you know, that's an interesting question, too. And I think what I've experienced, you know, as we've done, sort of, like our personal power mastery training around the world and stuff is that momentum is always more, more positive and more permanent and more effective than motivation. Because motivation, basically, we have to be in the mood, we've got to feel like it even if we've got a to do list on our desk and in there's things that I know I need to do. I'm going to procrastinate, if I don't feel like it right, I'm going to push it off, but momentum. If I can get myself into a form of habit and create some ritual tendencies, some things that I'll return to and I'll do it again and again, it becomes much easier but here's how habit is created. habit is created because at one point, we have received value from an activity that we did we, it's been in line with, with the things that we treasure the most. And so I think it comes back to that really way back. And it's funny way, way before Simon Sinek was talking about it in my first film, I talked about the power of why, and how do we really discover our y? What's the true essence of y? And the funny thing is, is it's not just having your y have meaning to you, you hear everybody say that we've got to dial into our own passion and purpose, right? Well, Warren Buffett says what you love about you is your hobby, what others love about you is your business. So it can't just be about your passion purpose. So my advice is, where does your passion and purpose overlap the passion and purpose of others and that's the sweet spot. So same thing with your y where your y overlaps the y of others. Now, not only is that going to be your most profitable place for business, but it's also going to be your strongest sense of validation. And so when you are experiencing negativity, if you can find a why It makes sense to you and those that you're serving, it'll be so much easier to be valuable to those people. And when you feel valuable you just keep going. That's a new habit. Right? We're gonna keep doing what makes us feel really, really good.

Rick A. Morris  26:12  
Yeah, I love that momentum versus motivation. I think that's fantastic. Switch on it. So we're gonna take another break right here. We'll be back with Doug vermeeren. And you're listening to Rick Morrison the work life balance. We'll be right back after this.

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Rick A. Morris  28:49  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. We are talking to the producer of how thoughts become things as well as several other movies out there. We've got Doug vermeeren here with us, Doug. He just said Did you write it wasn't in your bio, but you were just voted number one passive income coach by Money Magazine? Is that correct? That's right. So let's, let's talk passive income. I think there's a lot of misconceptions out there as to what passive income really means. You know, I think right now in the time of COVID, everybody's outputting, their online programs. And of course, as soon as you set it up and publish it, you know, of course, that money's just going to roll in or, oops, I just need Facebook ads, and then we're going to be just rolling in the dough. Talk to us about some of those misconceptions.

Doug Vermeeren  29:31  
Wow. Well, a couple of things that I think are really important to just hit on right off the bat, is that the word passive and the phrase passive income are so misunderstood. In fact, if I had it if in my power if I was the Webster's dictionary guy that could rework some words there, what I would probably do is I'd shift the order and sequence of those words First of all, so it would come out as Active Passive, meaning that there is so much activity that needs to be put in properly and put in place before an income stream can become passive. And most people think a passive income means free money, it looks just like you said, put up this website and off to the races we go. And the other thing that's, I think, really important to just recognize is that passive income is a lot older than the internet. It just seems like everybody's talking about it now, right? Like, let's build a course and put it up. But the truth is, is passive income, which actually I prefer to call it leveraged income, because it utilizes systems has been around since the beginning of time. If you think about it, you know, even the first day that somebody rented a property or rented a physical object to someone else, that's a form of passive income, right? Or the first time somebody use the labors and efforts of someone else to produce income. It was leveraged, it was passive. And so I think, you know, the one thing that I think for the business owners that are listening is that we got to kind of get it into our mind that the goal with everything is to create more passive it, right, it's to create that leveraged income. We want other people To make the money for us, we want other people to give the customer support for us. We want other people to do our marketing we want to, it's really a game of delegation. And again, I'll repeat that any kind of system can either be delegated or automated. Those are the only two things that we're ever going to do. Now, how does a person do that? Because this is the question everybody at home is probably saying, Yeah, well, that's nice to say, but, you know, I've got so much stuff that needs to get done and I'll never be able to free myself from it right? Like I'm as passive as I'm ever going to be. I guess number one, first thing to understand is the passiveness comes in degrees. So it's kinda like a dimmer switch. Right? So it's gonna be varying degrees of you in or you're out. And the first step to really identifying the you out I think, you know, really kind of fun story. Again, when I was about, probably about 20 at this point, I met with another business owner, again a friend of mine who I'm still very, very close with and you know, he's he's almost just shy probably, you know, couple hundred thousand of being a millionaire right now. And by the way, that's COVID time, right? Okay, so very difficult to kind of keep and maintain those kind of monies. But he's doing it. So I met with him. And one of the things that was interesting was I brought a business plan of something I want to show him. And, you know, he sat me down and didn't even touch the paperwork, right? didn't even touch this business plan. But he asked me a question. He says, so what are the transactions? I'd actually never really heard that at 20. before. So I started to talk about Okay, so these are our customers how we're going to do it, he stopped me getting to know where the transactions and so again, I started talking about something else trying to hopefully, you know, show him I was smart, right? And so finally, after about three or four tries with this, he goes, No, no, no, stop. What are the transactions? He says, identify the clear, basic transaction you're trying to get people to do? You are going to give them either an asset service or information. Those are the only three things you can sell, and they are going to give you money. How does that happen? How does that occur? So when I finally understood that, you know, I can't scale anything, I can't know my marketing, I can't know my advertising, I can't even know my customers until I know what is the real call to action transaction that they're going to give me money for, for, again, either an asset service or information. So as soon as I identified that, then he did this neat little chart, like a circular chart with a happy face of me on one side on the on one, and a happy face of my customer on the other with the arrows kind of pointing from the customer to me, and then from me to the customer, showing that transaction money, asset service or information, then what he did was very interesting to me. He drew a series of lines between the two of us. And he said, so what needs to happen for this person to receive that asset servicer information? And he said, there's really generally three categories of what has to happen. There's the tell, how are they hearing about you? The marketing, right? The advertising, the messaging, the branding, right? The next is the sell. So how are they going to actually be convinced to do business with me? And how am I going to receive the cash in that sale, right? Maybe you've even got account for seeds. In that, and then he said, and the last one is what we call service? How are these people going to receive this? Right? So if we can identify the steps in those three areas in this transaction, this is where it begins to become passive. He says, under the area of tell, how can we delegate a few of those to someone else? So if you if it's marketing, how can you give that away to somebody. So your income stream now just became more passive by the degree of what you just gave away? Then he talks about sell. Right now, you told me earlier, you love sales. But if you had an army of like 10, guys, just like you that were solid and out there, you would become more passive to the degree that you got that support, and so on and so forth. So the object I think, and maybe this is the challenge I think the most business owners have, they don't really clearly know the steps that are that are involved in all the transactions they do. They just kind of know that another sale means a little bit of money, but they don't recognize all the elements of tell sell and service that goes into facilitating that transaction. And I think the more we can identify that few things happen. First of all, now we know our systems. So we can measure a lot better, we can see what's really happening in our business, we can see where the improvements need to be made. But we can also when it comes to hiring, we know who our superstars need to be. In other words, I'm trying to find a killer marketing guy for this, who will facilitate this kind of a transaction. Now I know specifically who I need to find, because let's be honest, I mean, not all marketers are created equal. And the same can be said about sales and service and everything else. But with more clarity, the more that we know, what is it that they say? When we say in personal power mastery, a goal that is specific and clear, becomes attainable in there. And that's the problem. Most people they, you know, lack of clarity, and that's why they're never making any money. In fact, it's so funny that as I look at all the top achievers that I ever interviewed that were not only the millionaire level, but more specifically the multi millionaires and the billionaires. They have such clarity on everything in terms of the numbers. And how the numbers are produced and their business. They really knew it. And you could like ask them almost any question. They know it off the top of their head. Or they would certainly just open up their phone and say this is kind of the numbers that we're doing in real time right now.

Rick A. Morris  36:13  
What are some of your favorite questions that you've asked these high achievers? Not necessarily responses, I want to get into them, but some of your favorite questions that you'd like to get into?

Doug Vermeeren  36:22  
Well, one of my favorite questions to always ask is what has been your biggest challenge? And how did you overcome it? Right? Because I want to know, because the truth is, is if they hit that wall somewhere, I'm gonna hit it. And it was interesting. I'll never forget, one of my favorite answers to that was with Howard Putnam, the former CEO of Southwest Airlines. He had also been the VP of customer service for United and also a brand of airlines. In fact, with Braniff, he was the only person in the history of the world to ever take an airline through chapter 11 and emerge without any government assistance, which was very cool. But um, you know, I think a couple of things that he said that were really kind of neat on a family level, he said, for a challenge he says, I always made sure That my family, including my children knew what was going on in my business life, that they understood what I was going through. So in fact, he used the phrase at the kitchen table, I would open the kimono. That's what he said, right? So that everybody kind of knew. And at the same token, they felt like they could share their life with him. And I think this is a really big thing for a lot of entrepreneurs is that many of us are severely out of balance, right? We're out of whack. And sure, and sometimes, you know, our spouse or our family members don't really know what we're going through. And so they assume that we're workaholics because we're trying to do what we believe is the right thing and everything else. They just don't understand sort of how our businesses is needing us at certain points. And by the way, I think because you can't explain it to others, you probably also can't teach someone else to put them in that position. Right? The more we understand, the more we can fill the position. So it's kind of a catch 22 one of my favorite questions also with Richard Branson was what was the biggest challenge that you had as an entrepreneur. And interestingly enough, we always see him Talking about how if you want your customers to be treated well treat your staff well. You've heard him say this right? how we treat our staff will reflect on how we treat our customers. But, you know, he said, my biggest problem is always been finding really good people. It really has been a big problem. So, you know, to me that says he's burned through a lot of people, right? And I'm not saying that that means that it's been intention, but he finds very quickly, who's not working. In fact, Howard Putnam also mentioned something similar like that, too. He says, in southwest, we actually always hired for attitudes rather than skills, because you can train the skills but you can't train the attitude. Like we talked about that. Something called the willingness factor to be successful. There's two things that anybody needs. They need a correct strategy, and they need a high level of willingness. And you can't teach willingness, right? If a person's not willing to do it, it doesn't really matter if they don't catch the vision. You can't help them. But you know, one of my favorite things actually, that I observed, I didn't ask this as a question. I just happen to be in the right place. place at the right time to see it. A gentleman that kind of became like a grandfather to me we talked about him on break was Howard arap was sorry, was Frank McGuire. Frank McGuire actually for those of you don't know him he started at ABC when was radio when it switched to TV he gave Alan Alda, Charles Osgood Ted Koppel, their first jobs he was the private philosophy teacher to Marilyn Monroe, a really good friend of Elvis Presley's. He worked in the White House under JFK and Lyndon B. Johnson. He actually used his skills and got JFK elected. He was part of the leadership team of that. He was also the VP of Marketing for all of American Airlines, and KFC and they took it to number one in the New York Stock Exchange. And he was one of the four founders of FedEx. So this guy became like a grandpa to me and I treasure he's passed away now but I treasure every moment that I had with him. And I'm so glad that I actually recorded audios with him about a lot of his life experiences just I listen to it and still learn from it now, but I miss him. So here's an experience we have that just blew me away. We were outside of a hotel, once we had just together done a speaking event. And as we went on to you know, get our baggage loaded into the vehicle. This kind of bellboy kid helped us put all our, you know, suitcases into the end of the vehicle. Then he kind of came around the car and Frank had a tip for him. You had a $5 bill and he held it out. And as he held it out, this kid grabbed it, but Frank didn't let go. Now the funny

thing is, is you have this older gentleman looking you dead in the eye, and he won't let go of your $5 tip. What do you do, right? So it kind of caught this kid off guard. So but Frank now had his attention like 100% Frank says to him, what did I give you? The kid not sure what to say looks kind of down. He's like, a $5 bill. And Frank said, what's it worth? And the young kid kind of shrugs and says, No five bucks. And Frank said, No, it all depends on what you do with it next. And to me, that was a massively profound lesson to really recognize that every dollar we have is a seed. And yeah, you could go in you know, buy yourself a Starbucks or go see a movie or whatever, and but then it's gone. Or You can make a different decision with that five bucks. And, you know, I'm not necessarily saying compounding interest and put it in the bank, and that's the, or in an investment. That's the only solution. No, I mean, you know, for me, I also look at every dollar that I invest in, maybe to use your example of Facebook ads. Right now with us running the movie, every dollar I invest can often turn into, you know, 50 or 100, or even more, depending on who clicks on that. Right? So we've got to recognize that the value of $1 and by the way, I don't just look at that with money. I look at that also with return on effort to every hour that I inject into something. What's the return? It's going to give me right because my time is a seat as well. And you know, I don't know it's kind of funny when one of my mentors once told me, he says on a regular Tuesday afternoon, you want to know where you can find the crappiest salespeople in the world. And I that question intrigued me I said where he goes go to the movie theater because they're the guys who are sloughing off taking the time off in the afternoon to catch a flick while everybody else is out there working these days. People don't believe in themselves. They exclude themselves from the you know, the whole program and they get themselves sitting in a movie theater somewhere. So he says you'll find the worst salespeople in the world at the movie theater. I just thought that was a clever idea. And so obviously since then, for me personally, yes, I get everything done very quickly in a day I do. But I also make sure that I'm not you know, taking an afternoon nap or I'm not sitting laying gummy drop or Tetris in the middle of an afternoon or whatever it is, right? So we've got understand that whether it's your business, your family, relationships, your personal connection to yourself, whatever it is, man, time is short. And we've got to really recognize that life is just a gift, right?

Rick A. Morris  42:41  
Absolutely. So we're gonna take our final break right here. We'll be right back and I'm going to switch up our question that we normally ask every guest and I'm going to switch that up for him when we come back. You're listening to Rick Morris on the work life balance

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Rick A. Morris  45:20  
And we're back to the final segment of the work life balance on this Friday afternoon, Doug, we've been talking about the movie where can people go see it?

Doug Vermeeren  45:27  
The easiest place is just simply how thoughts become things calm, the name of the movie. So www dot housing, how thoughts become things calm?

Rick A. Morris  45:37  
how things become thoughts.

Doug Vermeeren  45:40  
But you know what, if you just

type in how thoughts become things, you're also going to find it in Google but add the.com you'll get there a lot quicker. The cool thing is, is right now we actually have added a bunch of bonuses too. So you get a workbook, some audios and all kinds of other cool tools in that on that website. So it's a great time to do it. And those are limited time promotions. So I would definitely recommend it.

Rick A. Morris  46:02  
And then personally for you what what is your website? How do people find you?

Doug Vermeeren  46:05  
Well, I've got lots of free tools that are out there. So you can find me on YouTube. We've got a channel up there also on Instagram. But we've got something really cool that we're doing lately that I think is worth mentioning. A lot of people who are in business or entrepreneurs, they really want to know how can I become more passive? How can I create more income streams? How can I fix the income streams I have. So we've got a new program called the income stream challenge, you can go to income stream challenge.com. And actually, for only $9 a week, I actually bring on some of the top achievers I've been talking about today, some of these top entrepreneurs and business leaders, and we coach every week, like every single week on Wednesday, you can be part of this group coaching for only nine bucks and I think there's several thousand dollars worth of bonuses there. In fact, I just wrote an ebook that's in there called the truth about manifesting money, because I really believe a lot of these books on manifesting are missing a handful of really big elements and there's all kinds of tools Like, again, we'll show you exactly how I got to just over $14 million in passive income. And it's only nine bucks a week, come visit us, you'll have a blast.

Rick A. Morris  47:08  
So the question I normally ask at this point is what some of the best advice you've ever received, but talking to somebody who's interviewed as many people as you have what, what are two or three of your favorite nuggets that you've picked up from some of these top achievers?

Doug Vermeeren  47:22  
Well, when we chatted in the break, I actually just wrote down three quick, really little thoughts, but have changed my life like dramatically changed my life. So the first thing is, is everybody's heard this saying, Have you want to become wealthy take a millionaire to lunch? Well, the truth of the matter is, is one lunch will get you started, but it won't keep you going. So rather than just going to lunch, I'm going to suggest you need to learn how to create and maintain high level relationships. So it needs to be an ongoing thing because not only is your network your net worth, but it's also your safety net. And it's going to be your safety net before it's going to be your net worth right. So it's going to increase the ability to solve problems. So you need have relationships with millionaires. The other thing I'm going to suggest is we all need to uplevel our network and you'll never do a million dollar deal at a $10 breakfast, we kind of talked about that. The other thing that I think is also important is this idea. We've heard it before you can be rich, or you can be right. The truth of the matter is, is the biggest challenge to any of your growth, whether it's financially in your life or in your personal life or whatever, it's going to be your ego. So you need to understand that students, people who are really genuinely curious, those are the people that are on their way to success. And the minute that you say, I've got this figured out is the minute you shut the door on any kind of possibilities. But the last one, I think is maybe the important one, it's that the return on nothing is always nothing. So you need to get started, you need to do something. So if you listen to this today, you know the most fragile word in the English language is the word now. Right? Even whisper it now and it's gone. Right? It's the most fragile word that there ever was. And the problem with most people is they never take advantage of now. And when we read that little poster that everybody puts up with the kitty cat on it, it says, Now if you do it now you'd spell backwards. You won, right? I think that's nice. But the truth is, it's not really a competition. So I like to take the letters now like n o w, and I say they stand for no other way. So that's the only thing that you have to work with is now. And so as you leave this show today with Rick and I, I'm telling you don't just say, Well, I was really nice. He said a few nice things. Hopefully, I, you know, I can make some life change where I sit down, if you say you're gonna do it, studies have shown that there's like an 80% chance to maybe do something. If you write it down, it bumps up to about 90. But if you actually schedule it, or you just simply get started, it rises to the high 98. Don't just talk about what you'll do. Put it in your schedule, say this is when I'm going to do it, get started. And again, start getting momentum rather than motivation. You'll find that the momentum will carry you to higher levels than motivation. everwell I love

Rick A. Morris  49:59  
the had no other way that just maybe flashed a burning desire, right? Oh, burn all the bridges behind you so that all you have is the desire to go forward.

Doug Vermeeren  50:09  
Yeah, yeah. And by the way, I would also kind of share an interesting thought on that I had one of my top achievers, we, we talked about this idea of burning the bridges behind you. And you know what he said? He said, Be careful, you don't really want to burn them all behind you, because some of those people you're gonna invite to follow you across the bridge later. Right? So we've got to be careful when we do that. And that's the other thing too is this definition of toxic people. I know we're running really close on time. But let me share this that I think is really interesting that also a lot of the Guru's teach nowadays, they say get rid of toxic people. And I'm going to share that that's wrong, certainly to get rid of abusive people. But all the top achievers that I interviewed were problem solvers. They didn't run from problems, which basically means this. We don't look at someone who's making us feel uncomfortable. Remember, right or wrong, right. You can be right or you can be rich. So your ego if somebody rubs up against our ego, we don't dismiss them because they didn't see eye to eye with us, right? We're open to receiving people that sometimes are a little rough around the edges. In fact, there's really only two kinds of toxic people. One is a complainer. And the truth is, is unless you have clarity on who you really are, you know, a complainer will knock you off base every time you'll subscribe. The weather is bad. Yep, the weather is bad. If you know who you are a complainer doesn't matter. So the second kind is a critic. And the critic generally, to be honest, has something valuable to say sometimes they have facts, sometimes they can point out flaws. Sometimes they can help you improve. What do we say that sometimes the customer service department is the most valuable because they get the complaints and when now we know what to fix. But most people aren't prepared to listen to those kind of concerns. So here's the challenge. Next time you have a critic that comes, listen for the truth in it, and just recognize that they're not a great communicator. That's why it feels not so good, right? That's why it feels a little bit painful, because they're not saying it in a way that's easy to receive. But what they're saying there may be truth like, you know, if you look back to your high school days, when your mom said, Be careful of who you hang around with at lunchtime. Well, there's truth that some of those kids may not have been great, but the way Your mom said it shouldn't make you feel good, right? Sure. So we should look to embrace all people, you know, we need to expand. If you want to expand what you have, you have to expand who you are. And that means embracing problems not running from them. In fact, you're always compensated more if you can embrace and solve problems that you didn't create. So just keep that in mind as well.

Rick A. Morris  52:22  
Well, Doug, we've appreciated this. I've had a ball, and we'd love to have you back at some point as well. You're always welcome on the show.

Doug Vermeeren  52:29  
Thank you.

Rick A. Morris  52:30  
And so we're gonna be wrapping it up for this Friday afternoon. Next Friday, you're going to join me right here, we're going to be talking about the portfolio management dream in talking about a lot of those executives out there who are trying to understand, especially with COVID, and everything else, what they can accomplish, what they can accomplish. And in my favorite thing that we say in that as you're picking projects based on what you can spend or what your resources can realistically achieve. We're going to talk about how to stop the portfolio dream from becoming a nightmare. So that's next Friday, right here on The Voice America. Business Network. We will talk to you then. Otherwise, we hope that you live your own work life balance, and we'll talk to you soon.

VoiceAmerica  53:12  
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